We talked to
Philomena Leung, Associate Dean of International Engagement at Macquarie Business
School (Australia) about creativity, innovation and the 4th
industrial revolution.
We live in a globalised world, where companies have a chance to develop
new products and entering new markets. How is creativity a means to this end?
First of
all, creativity is not something which lies outside the person, but within them.
So, you can’t really learn it. It is really about trying to unlock the
potential within you, about looking at relationships. If a company really wants
to be creative, it has to look at what they do and then at what other
businesses do, then figure out ways to connect with one another. Organisations
need to create this connection, just like the right side of the brain; and then
there’s the left side —what tools can we use to address an unmet need? How can
we improve?
So,
creativity is about unlocking what’s in
your mind and looking outside for factors, knowledge, insights, data analytics,
and at the same time what’s missing and how we can find a solution that meets
some of our needs.
Another
important aspect of creativity is networking and talking. I feel you can learn
a lot just from talking. You learn about how people do things. Since we live in
a globalised world, we have to relate and collaborate, experiment, and identify
areas where we can complement one another.
So, creativity is nurtured by social skills rather than by isolation.
Absolutely.
You are very right in using the word “nurtured”. Improving and nurturing is the
way in which you can see the world differently. That’s how you can see areas
where you can offer a particular solution. Creativity is not just for artists
and performers. It has to do with design thinking and with relating things.
It’s not about coming up with a brand-new solution, but about figuring out the
causes of the problem and how to benefit from the existing practices.
How can teams be motivated towards creativity?
If you look
at a lot of the newer companies like Amazon or Apple, you can see they
dismissed a lot of the older compartmentalised thinking. Their organisations
don’t really have a hierarchical network. The managers work with the juniors
and teamwork is encouraged, so that the whole company is full of new ideas and collaborators
have spaces where they are free to talk about them. In this way, those
companies can find new ways of doing things. By creating a supporting
environment, they motivate networking and at the same time they allow fresh
ideas to come in.
The most
important step to encourage teamwork is to break down barriers. In a lot of
those companies’ offices they use flats. In this way managers can sit with the
rest of the workers and listen to them. Instead of interacting with them only in
meetings, they eat together, play together and share. People tend to feel more
relaxed and to work out ideas together if they stop seeing their jobs in terms
of “you are the boss and I am the junior”.
How does Macquarie promote creativity in its MBA students?
Macquarie
has a large piece of land and an excellent location. We are right in the middle
of what we call the Macquarie Path Innovation District. We are surrounded by
over 200 large STEM companies. At the same time, Macquarie has 42,000 students
who think outside the box. We combine these opportunities by motivating these
companies, our students and the researchers to work together. We have an
incubator, and we use it to allow our students to come up with new ideas and
propose real solutions.
We also have
curricula with a new design which took us over 15 months to create. We do not
design programs by setting a foundation and levels. There is still a
disciplinary knowledge that students have to learn sequentially, but we also
make sure that students can exercise their flexible thinking in a way in which,
for example, you can learn arts and science together. Our new programs are
flexible, future-looking and also shorter in duration. We have over 50 one-year
masters programs in which you combine topics and then look at the knowledge you
need to build to develop your own passions, so you can build up your own
degree.
You are giving the students an opportunity to relate their learning to
their own interests.
Yes. And also,
of cultivating their leadership. Leadership is not about finding who is a leader
and who isn’t, but about becoming one by managing your life, and identifying
knowledge you’ve acquired. In these times, the internet is full of knowledge, but
how do you assimilate it and distil it into something that you’re passionate
about? We try to help our students to actually use that knowledge to provide
value for society.
What is the impact of the 4th Industrial Revolution in the training
of leaders and business executives?
The 4th
industrial revolution is all about concept and building new ideas. It comes
from the Information Age, which used to be about accumulating knowledge. But
now we are talking about how to actually use it. On one hand we have
automation, design thinking, machine learning and such. But on the other hand,
we, as human beings, have to ask ourselves where we can find value to
contribute to this. I believe the impact of the 4th industrial revolution is
finding the relationship between humans and machinery. We have to figure out
how to continue to cultivate our emotional and relational intelligence and
maintain our empathy, so that we can best utilise all the information out
there.
Like a missing link between the mechanical aspect of knowledge and its
human side.
Exactly. The
mechanical aspect is very sequential and based in algorithms and formulae,
where understanding comes in a very logical way like in the left part of the
brain, whereas the human side is what we can offer in addition to that. I have
a work on the ethics of robots; it’s about how we have a more advanced way of
understanding our relationships and experiences and how that helps in enhancing
the efficiency of robots. That’s where we add value —we have the right part of
the brain. Humans can integrate everything together, we have a world view.
Robots may not. And I say “may not” rather than “don’t”, because I do not know
if they will in the future.
What potential do you see in the Latin-American market in terms of
entrepreneurial creativity and innovation?
I am very
impressed. This is my fourth visit to Latin America and I see that a lot of the
younger generations are putting much effort, energy and investment on
creativity, on new ways of doing things. And these ways are not just about
building a new product, but rather about how to teach, how to relate and how to
create environment so people can work together. I must say the innovative
nature and the ideas that come from this part of the world are something I have
to keep on learning from.
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